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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M04 is much harder to drive than the M03 - anyone is welcome to try mine next time I'm down....

1.For touring qualifying - A mix of both formats.

Final leg 1 grid determined by 3 lap method.
Final leg 2 grid determined by usual 5 min qualify
Final leg 3 grid determined by combined leg 1&2 result or even reversed?

This balances it for drivers good at 3 laps and good at the full 5 min heat.
Anyone good at both styles has better chances overall, as should be the case for drivers with better all round abilities.

2.Driver handicapping for Minis. Instead of weight penalties like WTCC how about time penalties in 5 or 10 second chunks. Then at the end of the next race the penalties are applied to finishing times and positions/points determined.

Every 1st place is 10s, every 2nd place 5s adding up to a max of 30s. 3rd place finish is no change but finish 4th or lower lets you remove 5s down until you hit 0s penalty. This even gives 'the beginners' the chance to finish ahead of front runners in the results if they could keep with 30s of the lead car!

3.Race Start etiquette - Setting/enforcing rules for drivers getting to the grid and marshalls to their posts. So often 1 or 2 drivers can keep the rest waiting minutes on the rostrum.
Something like once the race start is called out, there are 2 minutes to get onto the grid, once expired missing drivers will be called once by name, they then have a further minute to appear. Also at this time last call for marshals is made, again 1 minute.

At the end of that minute the race starts and missing marshals loose their last result. Drivers obviously are penalised in that session by missing the start.

If a driver needs more time then they must ask race control before the 2 minute warning, so race control can inform everyone of a 3-5 minute delay.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please remember when suggesting any changes to the format of racing, that they must be easily managed.

We do not want to have to manually add times - sort out qualifying - etc.
If it can be done through the race program fine, if it can't then sorry - unless you are prepared to do the manual work at EVERY meeting
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sams Old Man wrote:
Only Tamiya Silver can motors to be allowed in the Mini Class, as the Mardave Silver Cans are actually 25turn!!!  


I had a look at Les' and thought it said 27T on the label, but might be mistaken as I didn't have my glasses on

If they are 25T then they are not within the regs and therefore will not be allowed.

Just checked Mardave site and they are 25T so not allowed
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we want the AGM earlier?

Thinking of those who want to get rc stuff for Xmas
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mardave motors are 25turn and are not leagle in the mini class
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just checked my dads mini its a mardave g2 brca legal motor wen he got this motor from galaxy john said it will b ok to use so thats y my dad been running it , i will get him to put in a new motor in wen he gets back from spain (late 2nite i think)...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wen he got this motor from galaxy john said it will b ok to use

May i ask the question, what do the staff at galexy actually know about the classes and regulations at Coastal. Seems like they found a silver can motor and said it is legal.

Does anybody know what wind the standard offical tamiya silver can motor is. Doesn't seem to be fast enough to be 27t.

Admin - with regards to the format of racing, this is why i suggested just the 3 lap qualifying all of the time. It is easily managed during the meeting and the points can be automatically uploaded onto the website.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he was told its the same as a Tamiya 540 motor thats why he got it.. its only been used at one meeting he will change it for the next meeting...



have a look at this regreds silver can motor

http://rcdaggerweb.com/clyde/wiki/index.php?page_id=30


Admin - with regards to the format of racing, this is why i suggested just the 3 lap qualifying all of the time. It is easily managed during the meeting and the points can be automatically uploaded onto the website

wudnt it be the same wen its wet the pc can b set to 3 lap racing and wen its dry to 5 mins....
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

markw wrote:


wudnt it be the same wen its wet the pc can b set to 3 lap racing and wen its dry to 5 mins....


No because we don't run both together in qualifying, we can set 3 best laps qualifying and 5 min for the finals. We cannot set three different qualifying styles for three finals, unless we run three totally different meetings, which then screws up the mini's & the buggies.
There are certain differences between classes that can be set.
This is why we don't run the mixed race style for buggies, because we had to run two seperate meeetings on the day. This when trying to run the meeting on the day is a pain the *#se, especially when people drop out
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i meant at the start of of the day not changing in though the day like if its wet in the moring paul will set it to 3 laps racing and if its dry it wil be set to 5 mins.


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